Prosecutors Say Boy Methodically Shot His Father
An 8-year-old Arizona boy charged with premeditated murder in the deaths of his father and another man shot each victim at least four times with a .22-caliber rifle, methodically stopping and reloading as he killed them, prosecutors said Monday.
I’m not going to share my opinion just yet, but let me ask some rhetorical questions:
- Can children be born evil?
- Well, let’s see… he had the perfect all-American dad. His dad taught him how to hunt, spanked him regularly and was innocently trying to discipline his child. With that said, why is his child a bad boy? Don’t we usually blame the lack of spankings on such violent kids of our modern times?
Right? Every time kids commit violent crimes, the conservatives blame it on “lack of spankings”. Well,… this little boy got his.
Although investigators initially said they thought the boy might have suffered severe physical or sexual trauma, they have found no evidence of abuse, said Roy Melnick, the police chief in St. Johns, Ariz., where the shootings occurred. Psychologists say such abuse is often a factor in the extremely rare instances in which a small child murders a parent.
What in the world constitutes “evidence” of abuse? Just because a psychologist says…….
An investigation found no evidence that the boy had had disciplinary problems at school or shown signs that he was troubled, Chief Melnick said. “That’s what makes this case somewhat puzzling,” he said, adding that the court had ordered a psychological evaluation for the boy. “Our goal is to get him some help.”
Puleeeeezzz. This case is not puzzling. The fact that some find this case “puzzling” just goes to show you how dim some people are.
Why is an 8 year old child getting training on how to use a gun and to hunt? HE’S EIGHT YEARS OLD! Back in my day, boys were playing softball, soccer in the streets, basketball in their front yards, climbing trees, and throwing eggs at random passing cars. The most violent were using bb-guns and their own fists.
The boy in Arizona was no stranger to weapons — his father, an avid hunter, reportedly trained his son to shoot prairie dogs — and psychologists said that might have played a role.
DEFINITELY! The kid learned that life was insignificant. And at such a young and impressionable age. That in and of itself is child abuse. You never expose the innocent to that.
This particular case says a lot more about our times, doesn’t it? Interestingly enough, it is around that age and earlier that little kids start to be trained on how to use guns in the MIDDLE EAST.
Parents are very rarely parents any more. They are just breeders. The only reason they have kids is to gain control over the powerlessness they feel as adults. Mistakes in family generations are repeated. The cycle continues. This kid was only doing what he was taught. Violence was all he knew. The concept of Life meant nothing. He became desensitized by learning how to kill for the sake of the kill.
“The wrinkle here,” Dr. Heide said, “is that this boy is so young, it could possibly be immaturity and impulsivity.” In children as young as 8, parts of the brain that weigh decisions and consequences are so underdeveloped that a child might not understand the finality of death.
Didn’t he learn from his hunting lessons that when you shoot, the subject DIES. Look at the methodical style he used against his dad? The kid knew what he was doing.
Mr. Carlyon said the boy told the police that he had been spanked at home the night before because he was having trouble at school. But, the prosecutor said, the boy “did not say that was the reason he committed any of the acts.”
Well, of course he’s going to deny the reason. He’s protecting himself from embarrassment. His father taught him to be “a man”, not a weenie Liberal who can’t take a beating and some “rough-housing”.
I sympathize with the kid. Hopefully this will teach a lesson to future parents or people having sex to use condoms when they’re not ready to procreate.
My readers who know me realize that I’m ultra-conservative when it comes to crimes and punishment, but for this one — give the kid some counseling. I don’t think he’s too old to figure out the dynamics of what just took place here.
End Note: Just in case any knee-jerk reactionaries come here, I DO support the 2nd amendment. But this particular case goes above and beyond that. There’s a big difference between gun owners for self-defense and gun-owners who are irresponsible. This little boy’s dad was, sadly, the latter.



























































I can’t believe they haven’t blamed video games yet. I don’t think this will end up as a lesson for parents and future parents. There’s been too many things like this in the past that could have educated people about this.
Video games! Why hadn’t I thought of that?! Give it a while. The yahoos will start blaming it on that soon enough.
If the kid didn’t own any video games, then they’ll just say it’s his friends video games. If that argument fails, then it will fall into the other entertainment media such as TV and movies or comic books, etc.
I doubt this kid even did it. Everyone on earth should know by this point in history that you can’t interrogate children becase they are hyper-susceptible to suggestion. Even if he did do it – it certainly doesn’t mean he understands what he did. The prosecutor sounds like some kind of nut, the police sound like morons, and the family of the Roman’s victim sound psychotic enough to be guilty themselves.
Sorry, I don’t see any basis to suggest shooting prairie dogs taught this kid it’s OK to shoot humans. Kids on farms have gone varmint shooting forever. They know the difference between human life and a mere disposable rodent, even at that age. We might as well try to claim setting mousetraps turns kids into ax murderers. Either the kid was chronically abused in this case, or he could be just a psychopath. Yes, some people can be “born evil,” roughly speaking; without a conscience anyway. Recent research tends to show that psychopaths are born the way they are.
Cal, No where in my opinion do I suggest that learning to shoot dogs will be the sole force in turning one into a murderer, but it does aid in desensitising a human. It makes it looks as if living creatures are disposable and unimportant.
I agree with you. This is complex.
Cab, You have a good point there. At least something to think about.
I find it so disturbing that the boy is not allowed to be placed at home with mother in house arrest. He is not a flight risk. Pending investigation and trial. If this child came home to a double murder then repeatedly asked in various ways tell the truth ( which implys your not) you did this? Now is locked up as if it is a true he did it as an adult to be locked up when you have done nothing is hard to handle as a child you will say anything to be ok again. The boy says he MIGHT HAVE? MIGHT HAVE? THATS WHAT YOU SAY WHEN YOUR NOT SURE!!!! HELLLO! But they keep asking him and telling him he is good when he tells truth. I think the mother needs to get on her with it where the H— was she how the cops got to talk to him without her and shes not fighting for him for his rights does she not have any rights?? At least to be released to her. She was on GMA this morning not once saying that she is fighting for his rights or questioning what happen to him or what happned at the home. I feel for this child what can we do to get him out during this whole ordeal till he is either found guilty or not guilty. His mother needs to get on the web, tv, anything and help him. He is only 8 and came home and loaded a rifle/gun shot his dad and the neighbor. The boy said he came home and saw his dad laying there. So that was a lie but when he said he MIGHT have shot him to put him out of misery that was the truth.??? Nothing on the neighbor. What can be done to help this child???
Well, one thing I think most of us can agree on is that this kid is a victim.
I don’t know.
There are certainly a lot of details missing from this story.
CAL! why dont you keep your negative comments to yourself (romans fam.)
I was trained to shoot at a young age. Hell, I have a picture of me with a .357 magnum revolver in my lap that is as big as I am. I also received a pistol for my 9th birthday. I have yet to commit any crimes with it. While born in California, I moved to Montana when I was 11 years old. Guess what. A great majority of children are trained in the use of firearms and hunting.
Children are born with emotional issues, but they don’t just show up. There are signs.
I just don’t understand the necessity for children to learn how to use a gun. Back in my day, kids played with toys.
Scary times.