If I have heard, “….but you voted for Bush twice!!!!!!1111″ once, I’ve heard it at least 989920033697 times. In fact, this is the most predictable Americanophobic cliché and misunderstanding of Americans, their political system, their history, and government as all the other rumors that I have challenged in my blog.
It was one of the country’s greatest political myths: Americans went to the polls every four years to directly elect the country’s president. Then, courtesy of the 2000 election — with its hanging chads, star turn by the Florida Secretary of State and intervention by the U.S. Supreme Court — we received a crash course in the intricacies of living in a constitutional republic.
It turned out that all those years when many thought we were directly selecting a presidential ticket, Americans’ votes were in fact being filtered by the Electoral College, the body of 538 electors that actually chooses the country’s president and vice president. Once the popular vote has been tallied, these electors — often culled from the ranks of state elected officials, party leaders and politically active private citizens — cast their ballots for the candidate who received the most votes in the popular election. The system is winner-take-all in most states, meaning that whichever ticket receives a simple majority of the popular vote wins all of that state’s electoral votes; the minority candidate, by contrast, receives no votes at all. And it is this electoral vote, not the popular vote, that ultimately determines an election’s outcome.
Read the rest of the explanation here.
It wouldn’t be so frustrating if Americans weren’t called “dumb”, “stupid”, and “ignorant” on a routine basis. But the “ignorant Americans” are beginning to realize that the pots are only calling the kettles black. The Americanophobes are hypocrites because their “what they call truth” are merely rumors, knee-jerk reactions, fabrications, hyperbole, propaganda, and pure ignorance. But how surprised can I get as it is becoming common knowledge that Americanophobia IS based on Ignorance.
As I have mentioned at least 84 times on my blog, George Dumya Bush was *NOT* – I repeat *NOT* elected twice (aka 2 times). In election 2000, Al Gore WON by the people – for the people – yes, that would be the popular vote.
Feast your eyes on this:
| George W. Bush |
Albert A. Gore, Jr. |
Ralph Nader |
Electoral votes | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Popular vote |
% | Popular vote |
% | Popular vote |
% | R | D | G | |
| Alabama | 941,173 | 56% | 692,611 | 42% | 18,323 | 1% | 9 | ||
| Alaska | 167,398 | 59 | 79,004 | 28 | 28,747 | 10 | 3 | ||
| Arizona | 781,652 | 51 | 685,341 | 45 | 45,645 | 3 | 8 | ||
| Arkansas | 472,940 | 51 | 422,768 | 46 | 13,421 | 1 | 6 | ||
| California | 4,567,429 | 42 | 5,861,203 | 53 | 418,707 | 4 | 54 | ||
| Colorado | 883,748 | 51 | 738,227 | 42 | 91,434 | 5 | 8 | ||
| Connecticut | 561,094 | 38 | 816,015 | 56 | 64,452 | 4 | 8 | ||
| Delaware | 137,288 | 42 | 180,068 | 55 | 8,307 | 3 | 3 | ||
| DC | 18,073 | 9 | 171,923 | 85 | 10,576 | 5 | 21 | ||
| Florida | 2,912,790 | 49 | 2,912,253 | 49 | 97,488 | 2 | 25 | ||
| Georgia | 1,419,720 | 55 | 1,116,230 | 43 | 13,4322 | 1 | 13 | ||
| Hawaii | 137,845 | 37 | 205,286 | 56 | 21,623 | 6 | 4 | ||
| Idaho | 336,937 | 67 | 138,637 | 28 | 12,2922 | 2 | 4 | ||
| Illinois | 2,019,421 | 43 | 2,589,026 | 55 | 103,759 | 2 | 22 | ||
| Indiana | 1,245,836 | 57 | 901,980 | 41 | 18,5312 | 1 | 12 | ||
| Iowa | 634,373 | 48 | 638,517 | 49 | 29,374 | 2 | 7 | ||
| Kansas | 622,332 | 58 | 399,276 | 37 | 36,086 | 3 | 6 | ||
| Kentucky | 872,492 | 57 | 638,898 | 41 | 23,192 | 2 | 8 | ||
| Louisiana | 927,871 | 53 | 792,344 | 45 | 20,473 | 1 | 9 | ||
| Maine | 286,616 | 44 | 319,951 | 49 | 37,127 | 6 | 4 | ||
| Maryland | 813,797 | 40 | 1,145,782 | 56 | 53,768 | 3 | 10 | ||
| Massachusetts | 878,502 | 33 | 1,616,487 | 60 | 173,564 | 6 | 12 | ||
| Michigan | 1,953,139 | 46 | 2,170,418 | 51 | 84,165 | 2 | 18 | ||
| Minnesota | 1,109,659 | 46 | 1,168,266 | 48 | 126,696 | 5 | 10 | ||
| Mississippi | 572,844 | 58 | 404,614 | 41 | 8,122 | 1 | 7 | ||
| Missouri | 1,189,924 | 50 | 1,111,138 | 47 | 38,515 | 2 | 11 | ||
| Montana | 240,178 | 58 | 137,126 | 33 | 24,437 | 6 | 3 | ||
| Nebraska | 433,862 | 62 | 231,780 | 33 | 24,540 | 4 | 5 | ||
| Nevada | 301,575 | 50 | 279,978 | 46 | 15,008 | 2 | 4 | ||
| New Hampshire | 273,559 | 48 | 266,348 | 47 | 22,198 | 4 | 4 | ||
| New Jersey | 1,284,173 | 40 | 1,788,850 | 56 | 94,554 | 3 | 15 | ||
| New Mexico | 286,417 | 48 | 286,783 | 48 | 21,251 | 4 | 5 | ||
| New York | 2,403,374 | 35 | 4,107,697 | 60 | 244,030 | 4 | 33 | ||
| North Carolina | 1,631,163 | 56 | 1,257,692 | 43 | — | — | 14 | ||
| North Dakota | 174,852 | 61 | 95,284 | 33 | 9,486 | 3 | 3 | ||
| Ohio | 2,351,209 | 50 | 2,186,190 | 46 | 117,857 | 3 | 21 | ||
| Oklahoma | 744,337 | 60 | 474,276 | 38 | — | — | 8 | ||
| Oregon | 713,577 | 47 | 720,342 | 47 | 77,357 | 5 | 7 | ||
| Pennsylvania | 2,281,127 | 46 | 2,485,967 | 51 | 103,392 | 2 | 23 | ||
| Rhode Island | 130,555 | 32 | 249,508 | 61 | 25,052 | 6 | 4 | ||
| South Carolina | 785,937 | 57 | 565,561 | 41 | 20,200 | 1 | 8 | ||
| South Dakota | 190,700 | 60 | 118,804 | 38 | — | — | 3 | ||
| Tennessee | 1,061,949 | 51 | 981,720 | 47 | 19,781 | 1 | 11 | ||
| Texas | 3,799,639 | 59 | 2,433,746 | 38 | 137,994 | 2 | 32 | ||
| Utah | 515,096 | 67 | 203,053 | 26 | 35,850 | 5 | 5 | ||
| Vermont | 119,775 | 41 | 149,022 | 51 | 20,374 | 7 | 3 | ||
| Virginia | 1,437,490 | 52 | 1,217,290 | 44 | 59,398 | 2 | 13 | ||
| Washington | 1,108,864 | 45 | 1,247,652 | 50 | 103,002 | 4 | 11 | ||
| West Virginia | 336,475 | 52 | 295,497 | 46 | 10,680 | 2 | 5 | ||
| Wisconsin | 1,237,279 | 48 | 1,242,987 | 48 | 94,070 | 4 | 11 | ||
| Wyoming | 147,947 | 68 | 60,481 | 28 | 4,6252 | 2 | 3 | ||
| Total | 50,456,002 | 47.87% | 50,999,897 | 48.38% | 2,882,955 | 2.74% | 271 | 266 | |
I know. It’s hard to look at – especially when you’ve been told differently by the BBC, the CBC, Faux News, and your favorite tabloid that talks AmeriKKKan dirt like no other.
What was all the ruckus over for a whole month after the 2000 election that made Michael Moore write a whole book about it? Well, see (and Micheal Moore being not all too often right on the money about anything, he was right about this) BUSH DIDN’T EVEN WIN THE ELECTORAL VOTE!
How does the Electoral College work?
It may surprise you to know that Russia has a more direct presidential election process than the United States. In the United States, a system called the Electoral College periodically allows a candidate who receives fewer popular votes to win an election. In fact, there have been several presidential candidates who won the popular vote, but lost the election because they received fewer electoral votes. In Russia, where no such system exists, the candidate who receives a majority of popular votes wins the election.
For more information on how the Electoral College works, please continue reading here.
LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN. AL GORE WON THE 2000 ELECTION. RECALIBRATE YOUR MIND AND RE-WIRE YOUR BRAIN. INPUT CORRECT INFORMATION. ERASE THE PROPAGANDA. PUT DOWN YOUR BRITISH TABLOIDS.
Please click below to get informed. Because when you’re talking to Americans, you want to give a good impression that you are aware of American politics to avoid any embarrassment. (Or at least when in doubt, ask questions instead of quoting “The Daily Star”.) 

- Tuesday, Nov. 7—Election Day. Pundits have predicted a tight race between Texas governor George W. Bush and Vice President Al Gore, but few expect one of the closest elections in U.S. history. By early evening, it’s clear the election hinges on Florida.
- Wednesday, Nov. 8—Gore calls Bush at approximately 3 A.M. to concede, but retracts the concession shortly after, because Bush’s razor-slim lead prompts an automatic recount. He leads Gore by about 1,210 votes out of nearly 6 million cast in Florida. Meanwhile Gore leads in both the national popular count and the electoral college.
- An unusual amount of votes for third-party candidates in Palm Beach County leads to disputes over the county’s “butterfly ballots.” A number of ballots in other counties are disqualified because the chad > the small piece of paper punched out of punch-card ballots—did not fully detach from the ballot.
- Thursday, Nov. 9—Gore’s camp requests a hand recount of the approximately 1.8 million ballots cast in Palm Beach, Miami-Dade, Broward, and Volusia counties, Democratic strongholds.
- Friday, Nov. 10—Florida’s automatic recount is completed. The Associated Press reports that Bush has retained his lead but only by 327 votes.
- Saturday, Nov. 11—The Bush team, led by former secretary of state James Baker, files suit in federal court to block Gore’s request for a hand recount.
- Monday, Nov. 13—Florida secretary of state Katherine Harris announces she will not extend the Nov. 14 deadline for the submission of all state results, excluding absentee ballots from overseas.
- A federal judge in Miami rejects Bush’s efforts to halt manual recounts. Bush appeals the decision.
- Tuesday, Nov. 14—Harris postpones certification of the state’s votes until Nov. 15, so Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Broward counties have time to prepare an explanation of why they should hand count their ballots.
- Wednesday, Nov. 15—Harris decides that no county offered adequate evidence to justify further hand recounts.
- Florida Supreme Court denies a request from Harris to stop the hand recounts. Certification is again postponed.
- Thursday, Nov. 16—Bush’s lawyers present written arguments to the U.S. federal appeals court in Atlanta to end the manual recounts. Gore’s team files a counter motion.
- Friday, Nov. 17—The Florida Supreme Court blocks Harris from certifying election until it rules on the Democrats’ motion to include hand recounts.
- The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals denies the Republicans’ motion to stop manual recounts on constitutional grounds.
- Saturday, Nov. 18—With a tally of absentee ballots, uncertified count has Bush ahead of Gore by 930 votes.
- Tuesday, Nov. 21—Florida Supreme Court rules that results of hand counts of ballots in Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Broward counties must be included in the vote tally if the counts are completed by Nov. 26.
- Sunday, Nov. 26—Harris certifies Bush as the winner of Florida’s 25 electoral votes, with a 537-vote lead over Gore. Gore pledges to challenge certification in court. The tally does not include results from Palm Beach County, which finished its hand recount hours after the deadline.
- Monday, Nov. 27—Gore contests the Florida results in a circuit court in Tallahassee.
- Wednesday, Nov. 29—Leon County Circuit Court judge N. Sanders Sauls orders that all ballots from Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties be sent to Tallahassee for a hearing on whether the hand count, which was incomplete at the time of the court-ordered Nov. 26 deadline, should be included in the final vote tally.
- Thursday, Nov. 30—Florida lawmakers, voting along party lines, recommend holding a special session to name the state’s 25 electors if the election dispute is not resolved by Dec. 12, six days before the electoral college meets.
- Friday, Dec. 1—The U.S. Supreme Court hears arguments on whether the Florida Supreme Court acted properly when it forced the Florida secretary of state to accept manual recounts submitted after the legal deadline.
- The Florida Supreme Court denies Gore’s appeal to immediately begin recounting ballots and rejects motion filed by some Palm Beach County citizens who questioned the integrity of the “butterfly ballot.”
- Gore requests a count of approximately 14,000 “undervotes” from Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties.
- Monday, Dec. 4—Judge Sauls rejects Gore’s contest of the election results, saying the vice president failed to prove that hand recounts would have altered the results. Gore appeals to the Florida Supreme Court.
- U.S. Supreme Court asks Florida Supreme Court to explain why it ordered Harris to accept results submitted after the Nov. 14 deadline mandated by state law, thus returning the case to Tallahassee.
- Thursday, Dec. 7—Gore’s legal team appeals Sauls’s ruling. Bush’s lawyers argue that the decision should stand.
- Friday, Dec. 8—The Florida Supreme Court, ruling on Gore’s appeal, orders manual recounts in counties with large numbers of undervotes. Bush appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court and seeks injunction to stop recounts.
- In two separate lawsuits, Leon County Circuit Court judges refuse to throw out absentee ballots from Seminole and Martin counties that had been disputed by Gore.
- Saturday, Dec. 9—The U.S. Supreme Court votes 5–4 to halt the hand recounts and sets a hearing for Dec. 11.
- Florida Supreme Court hears appeal on whether absentee ballots in Martin and Seminole counties should be counted.
- Tuesday, Dec. 12—The U.S. Supreme Court rules in Bush v. Gore 7–2 to reverse the Florida Supreme Court, which had ordered manual recounts in certain counties. The Court contends that the recount was not treating all ballots equally, and was thus a violation of the Constitution’s equal protection and due process guarantees. The Supreme Court of Florida would be required to set up new voting standards and carry them out in a recount. The justices, however, split 5–4 along partisan lines about implementing a remedy. Five justices maintain that this process and the recount must adhere to the official deadline for certifying electoral college votes: midnight, Dec. 12; other justices question the importance of this date. Since the Court makes its ruling just hours before the deadline, it in effect ensures that it is too late for a recount. The decision generates enormous controversy. Those objecting to the ruling assert that the Supreme Court, and not the electorate, has effectively determined the outcome of the presidential election. As Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg writes in a scathing dissent, “the Court’s conclusion that a constitutionally adequate recount is impractical is a prophecy the Court’s own judgment will not allow to be tested. Such an untested prophecy should not decide the Presidency of the United States.”
- Wednesday, Dec. 13—In another decision, Florida Supreme Court decides not to hear an appeal from Gore asking that absentee ballots from Martin and Seminole counties be thrown out.
- In televised speeches, Gore concedes, and Bush accepts the presidency.
- Monday, Dec. 18—Electoral college representatives meet in state capitals and cast votes to select president.
- Wednesday, Jan. 5—Congress meets to tally electoral college results.
- Saturday, Jan. 20—George W. Bush sworn in as 43rd president of the United States.
The above is not news for most Americans. We expect this. We live this. However, we have fought this. Even in the 21st century, we are still fighting this until they fix this corrupt system owned by very rich and powerful bankers. The Republican party is all for the rich people. It does not represent the people. It does not represent the average man on the street. Admittedly, there are many poor Americans that vote Republican (the party for the rich) sacrificing some of their own interests for the party that stands for God and Guns. Don’t ask. The Neo-Conservatives don’t like hearing that Al Gore won the 2000 election. They cringe at it as do the Americanophobes that think for some godforsaken reason that Americans all have the same DNA. Hoo hummm….
A Canadian Intellectual even comments on our Electoral Process.
“…I figured it’s time to let everybody in on a secret, not that well kept mind you… it’s all a giant waste of time, come November 4th, the results of the election will be determined by 3 voters.
[Snip!]
In case you missed it, the president of the US is determined by what’s known as the electoral college. In this arcane system, the winner is determined by whoever manages to receive the most electoral votes. Each state is allocated a number of votes more or less based on its population, California the most with 55 and little states like the Dakotas, 3 each. If you receive the majority of votes in, say, Oregon, you get all 7 of Oregon’s votes, making the votes of all those who voted for another candidate completely irrelevant in the final count (*see below). This is done on a state-by-state basis, and the winner is determined by who gets the most electoral votes.
As has happened in the past it is quite possible for the winner of the election to actually receive less votes than the loser (in fact it’s happened 4 times: 1824, 1876 and 1888 and of course 2000). Now, the fact is a majority of voters in the US are either Republicans or Democrats and it wouldn’t matter if Krusty the Clown was their party’s candidate, that’s who they will vote for. Additionally, most states tend to be either Republican or Democrat states, for example California will be Democrat and Oklahoma will vote Republican. Of course these preferences change over time, slowly, but why are we wasting so much energy on this when we already know most of the results?…”
There are also some states that have lighter shades of red or blue or just about 50-50, but what he said in his blog entry was accurate. Feel free to read the rest of his post here.
A site dedicated to impeaching Bush declared the following:
Is Mr. Bush Really the President?!
In 2000, a clear majority of Americans voted for Al Gore. But the winner is determined by the Electoral College, so the winner in each state must be considered. The vote in Florida was so close that it took a month to declare a winner. Before Florida was declared, Gore led in the Electoral College with 266 votes to Bush’s 246 votes. When Bush was declared the winner of Florida by 537 votes, he picked up 25 Electoral College votes which gave him the Presidency.
So, with that said, Bush didn’t even win the ELECTORAL VOTE! Feel free to read the rest of the story here.
The Americanophobes and staunch Republicans will deny all of this until the pigs with lipstick come home, but the jury is *NOT* out on any of this. It is fact. But it is a hard one to swallow. To suggest that the “Greatest Nation on God’s Green Earth” is anything less than a Democracy is foreign to the ignorant or those that refuse to accept a harsh truth – especially one that places a threat on a life-saving mission for those with inferiority complexes.
It is true, however, that Bush DID get considerable support back in 2004. One commenter on my blog theorizes,
The Bush stuff never fails to amuse me, “OMG!!! THEY ELECTED BUSH”. I’d like to quote The late-great George Carlin on that one, “I still call him Governor Bush because that’s the last office he was legally elected to”. George Bush was appointed by the U.S. Supreme court (by daddy’s appointees) in 2000. Had he not been, he wouldn’t have even been an option in 2004.
Why was he re-elected in 2004? The war. Was it necessarily support for the war on moral grounds? Not really. Bush got a ton of red state support in 2004. Why? This is just a hunch of mine, but not one without careful and considerable observation. It comes down to one thing: Vietnam.
It’s a very personal, walking-on-eggshells sort of issue. The U.S. military has always recruited heaviest in the south and midwest. A lot of men in “fly-over” states either enlisted, or were drafted into Vietnam in the 60’s. They thought they were doing the right thing. They saw all these hippies burning their draft cards and running off to Canada. They went off to war and when they came home, were treated very badly by the country they thought they were serving.
Something like that you never forget. Their kids and grandchildren hear tales of how all these hippies and “intellectual sissies who think they’re so damned smart” spat on their loved ones way back then, calling them “babykillers”, god knows what else, and it breeds quite a bit of contempt. As a result, as long as there are people protesting the war, they will be there to support it, even if only out of spite. I don’t agree with it, but I understand where it comes from. That’s just how it is.
It is human nature that leftist Americanophobic intimidation causes people to veer toward the right of center. I’m not saying that it is right, but that IS how things are. And there are many who have converted to Right Wing politics for the reasons mentioned above. Many. And that is also the cause of the birth of Neo-Conservatism.
Lina Maria, a Colombian living in America writes a piece called, “Average Americans”, (along with a Spanish translation) and I agree with what she states here:
Those who chose Bush did not do it because they do not care what happens to the rest of the planet. Bush managed to convince many Americans that his intentions were to liberate the Iraqi people and to eradicate terrorism of the face of the Earth; an idealistic notion to believe in, but never a selfish one. This is why I think that the “Average American isn’t selfish in regards to the world”. On the contrary, they care too much. This has been an altruism that has cost them dearly and continues to go unappreciated.
I wrote this piece not from the point of view of a foreigner living in America, but from the perspective of an immigrant who has fully integrated into this society. After I posted this in Spanish, people continued to say mean things about Americans. They still believe that Americans are blind and selfish; something they feel was confirmed by the reelection of President Bush. Never mind that nearly half of us voted for Kerry. But even those I know who voted for Bush, did not do it because they want to destroy the world. Many of those who voted for him did it because they truly believed he would rid the world of tyranny and terrorism. How can someone call that selfishness? Naive maybe, but not stupid or selfish.
To all Americans, Bush voters or not, feel proud of what your country stands for and keep your heads high. Have faith in yourselves and your values… Truth will always prevail…
To non-Americans: Throw the first stone if your country is free of wrongdoing.
Feel free to read the rest of her essay here.
Why am I posting all of this?
I encourage you all to criticize all-things-American-corruption. Tell me what’s on your mind. Get it all off of your chests. Tell me you hate Bush, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, the Iraqi War, Neo-Capitalism, American Globalization and Dominant Monopolies that threaten competition. I will agree with you.
We can have a nice conversation while bickering about the Bush administration over delicious Tequila Shots.
I bet you are not as passionate a critic of the US as I am. I don’t object to any decries about those who run the American government … AT ALL. But when you start with the inane stereotyping, the sweeping generalizations about me, my family, my friends and those whom you have never met before, I lose respect for you and stop listening. There is no excuse for pubic bigotry, in my book. I would like to think that those who label themselves as “informed”, “enlightened”, “worldly”, and “educated” to be more “in the know” of the topics they discuss.
Criticism of ANY kind should be fair, balanced, informed, constructive, and thought provoking.
I now hope that you are all aware of how the Electoral Process works during American presidential elections. Not that this will put rampant and mindless Americanophobia (that has been alive and well since the 19th Century) to rest or anything. I don’t expect Americanophobia to end. It actually HAS to exist because how else would the Americanophobes in Canada, Europe, New Zealand, Australia, and Latin America survive their own shortcomings without the crutch of the American scapegoat?
And let me just leave with you a sample of Election 2008’s Electoral Vote before the major election coming in November:

So, as you can see, the votes in Idaho do not count on the electoral level. And yes, that means that if I lived in Idaho and I voted for Obama, it wouldn’t count. (I vote regardless just to have my vote on paper as I think that is important especially to further expose the flaws of the electoral college.) Naturally, the above map is subject to change on November 4th, but is merely just an example of how it works. And before you Anti’s start crying about that, YES, we Americans are trying to CHANGE this system.
Read, listen, and learn with an open mind before you criticize (if your herd leader allows you to do so).
UPDATE!!
If that wasn’t enough to show how undemocratic our voting system here is, THIS is equally worse – if not more so:
More on our Democracy being hacked mercilessly:



























































I am normally supportive of my American friends, as I think there are far more deserving whipping boys in the world, in fact, idiots are just about everywhere, so we can share the claim to be idiots around a bit.
However, this time, I think americans deserve a turn. Most people (I hope) realise that bush was not elected twice as has been well described above, he did however cheat the majority of Americans out of their democratic choice, for which there has been almost nothing done!! Just because a judge said it was ok certainly does not make it so. In the UK most of our judges have altzheimers or dementia, which does not entirely preclude them from making sense, but means we should question and reject their decisions on a regular basis.
Now here is the kicker
With this terrible finacial situation, Big Boy Bush (BBB) and his pals plan to rip you off again – I can only imagine that BBB thinks his fellow Americans are completely stupid and either won’t notice or won’t care he is about slip it to democracy and law again.
I quote you:
“Sec. 8. Review.
Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.”
LEGISLATIVE PROPOSAL FOR TREASURY AUTHORITY TO PURCHASE MORTGAGE-RELATED ASSETS.
Thats going to be a new law – now just in case you didn’t get that, it means, roughly this – I can do exactly what I want and no court of law or congress or even God Almighty can question what I say and do.
If Americans let this pass – Well , I can’t even put that in to words.
To make every vote in every state politically relevant and equal in presidential elections, support the National Popular Vote bill.
The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). The bill would take effect only when enacted by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).
The National Popular Vote bill has been approved by 21 legislative chambers (one house in CO, AR, ME, NC, and WA, and two houses in MD, IL, HI, CA, MA, NJ, RI, and VT). It has been enacted into law in Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These states have 50 (19%) of the 270 electoral votes needed to bring this legislation into effect.
see http://www.NationalPopularVote.com
Thank you for your comments, all. They are very helpful.
Ah, VM, where to even begin? Conspiracy theories abound. You do realize that every. single. review. of the voting record showed that Bush won Florida, right? Even by organizations that wanted to say Bush lost so badly they spent months poring over the data. What was the easiest way for Gore to be President? Maybe winning his home state of Tennessee would have been a good idea.
Only people who know nothing about American government refer to it as a democracy. It is, always has been, and hopefully always will be a representative republic. It is a democratic form of government, but a democracy it ain’t.
ah, yes – the battle cry of “selected, not elected” – are we getting that one out of the closet just in case things don’t work out in November?
But your right – having an electoral system that we can’t trust 100% isn’t helpful. Speaking of an electoral system you can’t trust – what about those rascals at ACORN? Under investigation in 4 states for massive voter fraud – and we’re still weeks awat from the election. I have a feeling the dead will turn out in record numbers come November. That’ll make hanging chads seem a distant, pleasant memory.
Actually, I am sick to my stomach of being accused for voting for Bush twice when I didn’t. We have been accused for voting in Bush twice for years, and I have had it. Not because of what we are accused of as much as the blatant ignorance about our system. And I wouldn’t be as harsh on the Anti’s if it weren’t for their smug “we’re better than Americans” attitude.
Actually, if you look at the post I wrote beforehand and read through the comment section, you’ll see what inspired this post.
Even if you think that the electoral victory for Gore was a conspiracy theory, he still won the popular vote. However, the Anti-Americans keep on saying ad nauseam that Bush won the popular vote. So, I set the record straight with this post. And it is this ignorance that is at the top of my list of Anti-American pet-peeves.
I have a long list of Anti-Anti-American posts on a waiting list that I want to type, but I am so into this election and very lazy at the same time that I am slowing down, some.
And yes, I find this post handy so we won’t be accused of voting Bush in for a third term. Just consider it a preemptive strike.
Voter fraud? What about all the illegal aliens that don’t have to show a REAL ID to vote? Bush loves illegal aliens and has done squat about this situation.
But yeah, the electoral system can be unfair both ways, but when has it ever screwed over the red states? If they screw over the red states this time, at least things will be even. But I doubt that will happen as too many corporations out there have too much a stake in the outcome and are more powerful than the average American. Omg… I sound so left here… LOL
Come on, VM – you can’t REALLY be suggesting that the Republicans stand to gain more than the Democrats on the old illegal aliens as voters things, can you? I despise Bush’s stand on immigration – but many Republicans have supported tightening immigration standards, while Democrats have repeatedly pushed for lessening these regulations, drivers licenses for illegals, etc. There’s only one party that calls them “undocumented Americans” – and their mascot is not an Elephant.
I did miss the point of your post a bit – you basically want to be sure that everyone knows that you didn’t vote for Bush, and that he didn’t win the popular vote in 2000. Fair enough. But the suggestion that people voted for Bush because they were “stupid, uneducated rubes” – not because they thought Al Gore was a pompous blowhard who was long on rhetoric and short on policy. It’s comforting (I suppose) for those who hate America to be able to claim that all Americans must be stupid because we elected Bush. What their really saying is “they must be stupid because they didn’t vote for the guy I liked”. Since these same individuals rarely, if ever have the best interests of America at heart – why on Earth should we feel bad about not voting for the guy they like? For me, a vote that pisses of the anti-Americans is a vote well spent. I don’t want France, England, and Iran to approve of my vote for PoTUS.
And THAT’S why I’m pissed at the Republicans! Because it’s a Republican stance to act on illegal immigration!! We expect the Dems to try to keep them here because otherwise would be “racist” and unCanadian.
Some are stupid and ignorant, but so are some on the left. Look at the essay written by my friend, Lina in the same post. I posted it there to show how just because one has voted for Dumya, doesn’t mean they had evil intentions to destroy the world. I know you all (or we all) have the best intentions at heart.
But it is no longer at heart if you vote a certain way to piss someone else off!
You’ve completely lost me on your arguments re: Republicans and immigration. You’re pissed at the Republicans BECAUSE they want to act to keep illegal aliens out of the US? That would run counter to your assertion that it’s primarily the Republicans who will benefit from “undocumented Americans” voting in the election.
It’s a Republican principle to take action against illegal immigration. It’s a Democratic or liberal principle to be lenient and sympathetic toward all immigrants regardless of their legal status. With that said and with high expectations for Bush to do something about this and stop calling the Minutemen “vigilantes”, I am disappointed as I am conservative when it comes to illegal immigration. And naturally, I see this a fault in my own camp (the liberal camp).
Colombia is spelled with two Os and no U. Just a pet peeve of mine. Please correct your reference to read a “a Colombian.”
Your post on the electoral college and voting was right on. The electoral college is a travesty. Hopefully we will turn some red states blue this year, though.
Rotus, thanks for pointing that out. I went ahead and fixed my misspelling.
Operation Wetback No! Operation Go Back Yes! Sign Our Petition
Hi I am a former Army National Guard soldier and I have a petition at OperationGoBack.com, would your sign my petition? Can you also ask others you know to sign my petition too? I need 2 million legal American to sign my petition. We must reverse this illegal invasion of illegal people into our country!
Can you help me increase that Illegal Exodus…Back to Mexico to an even larger number by signing our petition to send back all illegal alien invaders from our country? Because The SPAM Group will take another bite at the apple of “American Citizenship by any means necessary and Legalize Our Illegals Agenda. (The SPAM Group means The Spanish People Advocacy Movement Group) They are pushing a “The Race” or La Raza” agenda which is against the well being of the legal American citizens. It has been proven that their MAIN agenda is to create through political manipulation and what I call “False Arguments of Illegal Immigration, create a DUAL SPANISH/ENGLISH speaking America. Our founders are turning over in their graves. We can not let this happen. “Now is the time for ALL GOOD MEN to come to the AID of this country!”
Soon Illegal Alien Invaders will be granted AMNESTY (legal) status by DEFAULT! Because Legal Americans DID NOTHING to stop them. Have you ever been summoned to court to answer a charge, but you didn’t show up to defend your self and make your case, so the other party WON BY YOUR DEFAULT? That’s what’s happening now in this country! In just a little while Illegal Alien Invaders will get;
· AMNESTY (Legal Status) By YOUR DEFAULT!
There is only one question that all legal Americans must answer, and answer now. This question is also the MANDATE for the next president of the United States. We must get ready to sit 2 Million plus signatures on his desk, with the answer to this question. Yes the number is high because this issue is that important, and we have 300 Million plus legal people in America:
· Should illegal alien invaders stay here illegally in America and gain LEGAL AMNESTY status by DEFAULT (American’s Inaction) or should they Go Back?
Sign our petition to send illegal alien invaders back, we need 2 Million
Legal Americans to step forth and sign our petition, then ask everyone
you know to sign and ask them to tell their friends and family to sign
our petition too, that means everyone on your contact list.
Why? Because absolutely no one is telling these illegal alien invaders
to Go Back to their country, so they SQUAT illegally in our neighborhoods!
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