Comments on: Where is the Line Drawn between Discipline and Child Abuse? http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/whats-the-difference-between-discipline-and-child-abuse/ Observations from a typical, self-entitlement-oriented, inbred, insular, nationalistic, inherently violent, unfashionable, paranoid, arrogant, unsophisticated, fat, lazy, vulgar, greedy, racist, spoiled-rich, ignorant, stupid, humorless, loud, obnoxious, gum-chewing, carbon-emitting, baby-killing, gun-toting, bible-thumping, flag-waving, and self-centered, globalizing, uncouth, swearmouthed and boorish non-human Neanderthal American obsessed with sex, celebrities and McDonalds that demands the entire world revolve around herself! Sun, 25 Oct 2009 05:30:55 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: virgomonkey http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/whats-the-difference-between-discipline-and-child-abuse/#comment-1651 virgomonkey Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:46:26 +0000 http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/?p=467#comment-1651 Ooootto otto... I'm definitely not politically correct!! I don't see how any laws can be THAT effective anyway as who can tell what's going on behind closed doors? That has me curious. Ooootto otto… I’m definitely not politically correct!!

I don’t see how any laws can be THAT effective anyway as who can tell what’s going on behind closed doors? That has me curious.

]]> By: Will Rhodes http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/whats-the-difference-between-discipline-and-child-abuse/#comment-1650 Will Rhodes Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:44:52 +0000 http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/?p=467#comment-1650 PS please feel free to read: http://willrhodes1961.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/spare-the-rod-spoil-the-child/ and http://willrhodes1961.wordpress.com/2008/03/22/teachers-say-your-kids-are-spoilt-and-we-want-more-money/ PS please feel free to read:

http://willrhodes1961.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/spare-the-rod-spoil-the-child/

and

http://willrhodes1961.wordpress.com/2008/03/22/teachers-say-your-kids-are-spoilt-and-we-want-more-money/

]]> By: Seane-Anna http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/whats-the-difference-between-discipline-and-child-abuse/#comment-1649 Seane-Anna Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:43:43 +0000 http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/?p=467#comment-1649 "Thank you for disagreeing with me without knocking my eyes out." You're welcome, V! “Thank you for disagreeing with me without knocking my eyes out.” You’re welcome, V!

]]> By: Will Rhodes http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/whats-the-difference-between-discipline-and-child-abuse/#comment-1648 Will Rhodes Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:38:16 +0000 http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/?p=467#comment-1648 Well Virgo - I will be in your camp the day that they give every 10 year old a book on parenting from birth to adulthood completely free with the education and examinations that go along with that. And of course the class time that will be needed, and the teachers to teach such a subject totally impartially. When they [government and PCers] provide a true parents charter for the whole world population and stipulate, unconditionally, that parents are allowed to be parents first and not subject to any unhealthy scrutiny by the state. Which we all know is not going to happen any time soon. ;) Well Virgo – I will be in your camp the day that they give every 10 year old a book on parenting from birth to adulthood completely free with the education and examinations that go along with that. And of course the class time that will be needed, and the teachers to teach such a subject totally impartially.

When they [government and PCers] provide a true parents charter for the whole world population and stipulate, unconditionally, that parents are allowed to be parents first and not subject to any unhealthy scrutiny by the state.

Which we all know is not going to happen any time soon. ;)

]]> By: virgomonkey http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/whats-the-difference-between-discipline-and-child-abuse/#comment-1647 virgomonkey Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:20:00 +0000 http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/?p=467#comment-1647 <blockquote>“It’s not like either one of our camps are forcing our beliefs down the throats of others [.]” THAT’S NOT TRUE!!!!! In several European countries it is illegal for parents, or any other adults, to spank children and there are growing movements in other Western nations to outlaw spanking, too. I can’t believe you were unaware of this.</blockquote> Oh I knew this. Some of the links that I had posted in my entry were about the European ban on spanking - that was also my implication in my last line too. So, you are right. It is enforced. And there is intolerance! What I had meant when I was writing that (in regards to forcing beliefs) was purely in opinion and by persuasion of held opinions as if I'm trying to get my neighbor to stop spanking and he's trying to make me spank my child in the same way that one tries to convert one to conservatism or liberalism. That's what I had meant. I had not even thought about the anti-spanking movement writing their congressmen and such.... So, I stand corrected. Thank you for disagreeing with me without knocking my eyes out. :mrgreen: !! :twisted:

“It’s not like either one of our camps are forcing our beliefs down the throats of others [.]” THAT’S NOT TRUE!!!!! In several European countries it is illegal for parents, or any other adults, to spank children and there are growing movements in other Western nations to outlaw spanking, too. I can’t believe you were unaware of this.

Oh I knew this. Some of the links that I had posted in my entry were about the European ban on spanking – that was also my implication in my last line too. So, you are right. It is enforced. And there is intolerance! What I had meant when I was writing that (in regards to forcing beliefs) was purely in opinion and by persuasion of held opinions as if I’m trying to get my neighbor to stop spanking and he’s trying to make me spank my child in the same way that one tries to convert one to conservatism or liberalism. That’s what I had meant. I had not even thought about the anti-spanking movement writing their congressmen and such…. So, I stand corrected.

Thank you for disagreeing with me without knocking my eyes out. :mrgreen:

!!

:twisted:

]]> By: Seane-Anna http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/whats-the-difference-between-discipline-and-child-abuse/#comment-1646 Seane-Anna Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:08:09 +0000 http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/?p=467#comment-1646 Wow, V! I couldn't disagree with you more on this one! One sentence out of your lengthy post really jumped out at me: "It's not like either one of our camps are forcing our beliefs down the throats of others [.]" THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!!! In several European countries it is illegal for parents, or any other adults, to spank children and there are growing movements in other Western nations to outlaw spanking, too. I can't believe you were unaware of this. I wrote about spanking on my blog Home Fires and I pointed out that spankers are more tolerant than anti-spankers because they don't try to impose their child rearing beliefs on others through the law. The anti-spankers aren't content to simply not spank their own kids, nor are they content just to use persuasion to change people's minds. No, they want to FORCE everyone to parent they way they do by making it illegal not to. And I believe it's this intolerance on the part of (many) anti-spankers that's the real reason why the spanking debate is so emotional. Sorry I had to disagree with you here, chika; but I'm still on your side in the war against anti-Americanism! Wow, V! I couldn’t disagree with you more on this one! One sentence out of your lengthy post really jumped out at me: “It’s not like either one of our camps are forcing our beliefs down the throats of others [.]” THAT’S NOT TRUE!!!!! In several European countries it is illegal for parents, or any other adults, to spank children and there are growing movements in other Western nations to outlaw spanking, too. I can’t believe you were unaware of this. I wrote about spanking on my blog Home Fires and I pointed out that spankers are more tolerant than anti-spankers because they don’t try to impose their child rearing beliefs on others through the law. The anti-spankers aren’t content to simply not spank their own kids, nor are they content just to use persuasion to change people’s minds. No, they want to FORCE everyone to parent they way they do by making it illegal not to. And I believe it’s this intolerance on the part of (many) anti-spankers that’s the real reason why the spanking debate is so emotional. Sorry I had to disagree with you here, chika; but I’m still on your side in the war against anti-Americanism!

]]> By: virgomonkey http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/whats-the-difference-between-discipline-and-child-abuse/#comment-1638 virgomonkey Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:37:39 +0000 http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/?p=467#comment-1638 I thought that I was being obvious. :) I'm against it. I thought that I was being obvious. :) I’m against it.

]]> By: Will Rhodes http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/whats-the-difference-between-discipline-and-child-abuse/#comment-1637 Will Rhodes Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:06:28 +0000 http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/?p=467#comment-1637 So are you for or against smacking? So are you for or against smacking?

]]> By: Kendal http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/whats-the-difference-between-discipline-and-child-abuse/#comment-1635 Kendal Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:37:47 +0000 http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/?p=467#comment-1635 I have read the lengthy post and enjoy the research that was placed into it. Excellant job.. I have read the lengthy post and enjoy the research that was placed into it. Excellant job..

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